What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:13 pm

Guest wrote:Update:

On Q2: [tex]y(\beta_{1}^{3} + 4\beta_{1}^{2} \beta_{2} -8\beta_{1} - 9 \beta_{2}^{3} - 44 \beta_{1} \beta_{2}^{3}y^{2})^{1/3} \approx 201,412,490.4[/tex] ...

Remark: We need to answer Q1 before we can answer Q2. Right?


Hmm. [tex]|y| < (201,412,490.4)^{\frac{3}{5}} \approx 96, 039[/tex]. Right?
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:21 pm

Remark: Machine Learning (AI) and human learning can benefit in the quest to solve Hilbert's great tenth problem.
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:27 pm

Guest wrote:
Hmm. [tex]|y| < (201,412,490.4)^{\frac{3}{5}} \approx 96, 039[/tex]. Right?


The true sign of [tex]y[/tex] and the lower bound for [tex]y[/tex] may be deduced from answering Q1. Right?
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:52 pm

Remark: A good answer for Q1 determines how x and [tex]z[/tex] are related. Right?
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:13 pm

Guest wrote:Remark: A good answer for Q1 determines how x and [tex]z[/tex] are related. Right?
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:05 pm

'Rabbit Hole' Analysis:

Is [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex]? Why?

Hmm. We are clueless. :(
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:19 pm

Guest wrote: 'Rabbit Hole' Analysis:

Is [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex]? Why?

Hmm. We are clueless. :(


If [tex]\beta_{1} = \beta_{2}[/tex], then [tex]x = z[/tex]. Right?

And we can significantly simplify matters. How?
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:15 pm

An Optimistic Remark: If our analysis works well for our latest example, then we will be confident we can solve Diophantine equations with more than three variables. However, the complexity ([tex]\beta_{1}[/tex], [tex]\beta_{2}[/tex], [tex]\beta_{3}[/tex], ..., [tex]\beta_{k > 3}[/tex]) ... will grow, and the problems will generally become more difficult to solve.

But we optimistically believe a polynomial-time can be constructed to solve Hilbert's Tenth Problem.

We remain open to the possibility we may fail too, and that the difficult MRDP (Matiyasevich's) theorem is sound. :(

Go Blue! :D
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:16 pm

Guest wrote:An Optimistic Remark: If our analysis works well for our latest example, then we will be confident we can solve Diophantine equations with more than three variables. However, the complexity ([tex]\beta_{1}[/tex], [tex]\beta_{2}[/tex], [tex]\beta_{3}[/tex], ..., [tex]\beta_{k > 3}[/tex]) ... will grow, and the problems will generally become more difficult to solve.

But we optimistically believe a polynomial-time algorithm can be constructed to solve Hilbert's Tenth Problem.

We remain open to the possibility we may fail too, and that the difficult MRDP (Matiyasevich's) theorem is sound. :(

Go Blue! :D
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:50 pm

Question: What value of [tex]k[/tex] (number of unknown variables ...) will stop us?

"We must know. We will know!" -- David Hilbert.
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:56 am

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote: 'Rabbit Hole' Analysis:

Is [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex]? Why?

Hmm. We are clueless. :(


If [tex]\beta_{1} = \beta_{2}[/tex], then [tex]x = z[/tex]. Right?

And we can significantly simplify matters. How?


From [tex]x^{3} + 4x^2z -8xy^{2}-44xyz^{3}-9z^{3} = 8,170,698,744,133,625,080,294,398[/tex] for [tex]x = z , y \in \mathbb{Z}[/tex] with [tex]x = \beta_{1} y[/tex],

we generate the equation,

[tex](4 \beta_{1}^{2} + 8 + 44\beta_{1}^{3}y^{2})\beta_{1} y^{3} = - 8,170,698,744,133,625,080,294,398[/tex] with [tex]-96,039 < y < 96,039[/tex].

Does [tex]\beta_{1} \in \mathbb{Q}[/tex]?
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:08 am

And does [tex]x = \beta_{1} y \in \mathbb{Z}[/tex]?
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:15 am

Remark: We confidently assume [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex] or [tex]x \ne z[/tex] and that [tex]x, y, z[/tex] are unequal.
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:21 am

Remark: We must complete our 'Rabbit Hole' analysis and solve our equation for x, y, and z.

Good Luck! :)
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:00 am

Remark: There are minor/non-serious gaps or mistakes for sure in our evolving theory/computations to solve Diophantine equations of the type suggested by Hilbert's great tenth problem. That's okay. We will do better and close those gaps and correct our mistakes too.

So far so good! :)
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:18 am

Important Remark: Our approach to solving problems here is to reduce complexity/complications by whatever means (established theory, cleverness, methods, heuristics, etc.) necessary.

If we have an equation with four variables, we will try to reduce it to an equivalent equation with three variables, etc.
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:28 pm

Guest wrote:Remark: We confidently assume [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex] or [tex]x \ne z[/tex] and that [tex]x, y, z[/tex] are unequal.


We let [tex]d_{\beta_{1} \beta_{2} }= |\beta_{1} - \beta_{2}|[/tex] .

Moreover, [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex] implies Rabbit Hole 1:[tex]\beta_{1} > \beta_{2}[/tex] or Rabbit Hole 2: [tex]\beta_{1} < \beta_{2}[/tex].

Which one is correct? We are clueless. :(
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:54 pm

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:Remark: We confidently assume [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex] or [tex]x \ne z[/tex] and that [tex]x, y, z[/tex] are unequal.


We let [tex]d_{\beta_{1} \beta_{2} }= |\beta_{1} - \beta_{2}|[/tex] .

Moreover, [tex]\beta_{1} \ne \beta_{2}[/tex] implies Rabbit Hole 1:[tex]\beta_{1} > \beta_{2}[/tex] or Rabbit Hole 2: [tex]\beta_{1} < \beta_{2}[/tex].

Which one is correct? We are clueless. :(


We recall the equations,

[tex]x^{3} + 4x^2z -8xy^{2}-44xyz^{3}-9z^{3}

= (\beta_{1} y)^{3} + 4(\beta_{1} y)^2( \beta_{2} y) -8(\beta_{1} y)y^{2}-44(\beta_{1} y)y( \beta_{2} y)^{3}-9( \beta_{2} y)^{3}

= (\beta_{1}^{3} + 4\beta_{1}^{2} \beta_{2} -8\beta_{1} - 9 \beta_{2}^{3})y^{3} - 44 \beta_{1} \beta_{2}^{3}y^{5} = 8,170,698,744,133,625,080,294,398[/tex] with

[tex]-96,039 < y < 96,039[/tex].

We solve for [tex]\beta_{1}[/tex]...
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:38 pm

Hmm. Solving for [tex]\beta_{1}[/tex] is unworkable. Right?

Can we estimate roughly the range of possible values for [tex]\beta_{1}[/tex] or [tex]\beta_{ 2}[/tex] by holding [tex]y[/tex] as a constant and by employing the Newton's Method? :idea:

It's worth a try. Good luck! :)
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Re: What types of Diophantine equations are unsolvable?

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:47 pm

Guest wrote:Hmm. Solving for [tex]\beta_{1}[/tex] is unworkable. Right?

Can we estimate roughly the range of possible values for [tex]\beta_{1}[/tex] or [tex]\beta_{ 2}[/tex] by holding [tex]y[/tex] as a constant and by employing the Newton's Method? :idea:

It's worth a try.


We hold [tex]y[/tex] as a constant and vary the values of [tex]\beta_{ 2}[/tex] and determine the range of possible values for [tex]\beta_{1}[/tex]. :idea:

Or we hold [tex]y[/tex] as a constant and vary the values of [tex]\beta_{ 1}[/tex] and determine the range of possible values for [tex]\beta_{2}[/tex]. :idea:

Let's generate some results. Good Luck!
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